It belongs to the long green leaves we are seeing up there. Your email address will not be published. Im sorry but the question deserves a dumb answer. View our online Press Pack. That way, no downloads are necessary. Highlighted areas of interest (some not yet discussed I think): I think the night pictures were made by the killers to make it look like they were lost and trying to signal for help. Please read. How long have Keir Starmer and Sue Gray been secretly cooking up their plot? On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk . Also the path looks to be a dried up river vs a man made path. Hi Justin, Well done the image is really sharp now. So if you look behind her bottom theres a patch of light which is the light at the other end of this tunnel and shes holding her right hand up to her face to sweep back a piece of hair. The world may never know what happened to the pair, but speculation still runs wild. You can even see the shadow of her han on her face. And the black mark on her face. I cant imagine the rednecks in Alto Romero or the lads from Calderas having the wit to bother with it. I think this picture of Kris is a picture of her circling around looking for where they entered the jungle. The government intentionally did not investigate key pieces of information: fingerprints, phone records, locals in the area, other forms of DNA. thank you for sharing this. Does anyone see what I see? Dogs are very independent here. I think that I read somewhere that something blue was found on one of the shoes. I cant explain it but again it resembles so many of the bizarre cases which author and former cop David Paulides has brought (thousands of these similar events) right here in the US and Canada. Hi Chris thanks for the link to the book. I cover a lot of these things in my other comprehensive article regarding Kris Kremers Bones: There are simply too many variables involved to oversimplify the case with the conclusion that they got lost. Please note: Our team is committed to accuracy of information and respecting the privacy of those involved with this disappearance case. I think that the taxi driver knew who has killed them thats why sb killed him, the guide man who found the bones and their belongings can be the murderer and he was the person went to their room maybe to find the cable charge maybe pretending that he hadnt visited them on the reserved time, then he put their bag and money and camera for police because he was scared they search his house too, the locals heard screaming and then a crash (broken bones due to fall) in the jungle 4 days after their missing and warned about that to some french tourist, this article is long and I didnt sleep last night. All of it couldve just gone away.? Also theres a distinct small x made of branches or plastic in the top-mid right corner of the pic amongst the foliage that looks a part of the make shift roof/net. Bu that he meant an outcome which had no human input to the consequences. Interesting that you. You will notice another branch of dead leaf just below it. There is one thing I have wondered about, when did the dog leave them? In reality, I dont think someone would go to this extent. That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. There have been several mass graves uncovered there in the last year alone. The next morning, on April 2nd, a substantial earthquake of magnitude 6.0 hits Panama at 11:13 AM. Im curious about your experience living abroad. Most novices wouldnt know how to properly handle something like this, so it was probably someone experienced with computers. Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. He drowned a short time after. Could be leaves, I suppose, but to me it looks like someone is looking at the them from the vegetation. I look forward to learning more and you do valuable humane work helping other young adventurers. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. I would start at both ends of the trail meaning working forward from where they started their walk and backwards from where their pathetic remains were found. I dont buy it that those girls were murdered on the pianista trail. Most gangs in Panama are not big gangs with hundreds of members, like you would find in Mexico and El Salvador. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. The grimace on Kris face is because she is in pain. And we also have more than 500 sets of human remains believed to be archived across the . The 3 of them died shortly after being in contact with the girls. It does not make sense to me. This case is certainly not finished. After days and days, they finally got a bit of reception and some hope, and they didnt try again?? The black twigs can be seen growing up, as all vegetation/trees do to harness the sun, but the ones above her are clearly bent in a horizontal and parallel formation. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. I speculate about potential reasons. Hello Chris, did you ever get any background on the statements made by Joseph? The sun is shining right into her eyes so shes squinting and bending down a bit to see her friend, who was probably talking to her while snapping the photo. The first all the black area behind her was blackened and smudged. This was a real disappointment, the entry continued. Blue, a dog known throughout the community, reportedly followed them along the trail. There are flaws in the manipulations, such as the photo timeline, the inconsistent resolutions, the missing photo (or video), the red lines on the shirt, incorrect shadow positioning, etc. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. Please remember to be considerate of the two girls that lost their lives and their families. With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season., Winning Photos from the 2018 Nikon Small World Competition, Incredible Time-lapse Shot from the International Space Station at Night, Intense Macro Photos of Ants Battling to the Death, Surprising Underwater Photo Revives Investigation of Missing Teen, Hacker Hoodie Blinds Surveillance Cameras with Infrared Light, Couple Finds Trove of 2,000 Cameras and Lenses in Storage Unit, Hyper-Realistic AI Face Filter Shocks TikTok Users, AI Tool Reveals How Celebrities Faces Have Been Photoshopped, The Exposure Donut for Sony Cameras Simplifies Manual Exposure. And why? However, if this photo showed that someone had hit her, why would the culprit not delete it along with photo 509. After this, can ANYONE IN THIS WORLD still doubt that this girl WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN OR PHONED HER MOTHER FOR TWO WEEKS when she also called the police 100 times? It would be interesting to see a map of possible mobile blackspots because it seems where ever they were IF STATIONARY then they were on the extreme edge or reception dependent on atmospherics. One day in June, the tribespeople bring him what he wants; The backpacks and the bodies. Hi Tom, I believe you intended to comment above, on @SwordOfGods comment. Who said there werent any scratches on the bones? You have a good eye! Kriss in the photo is just watching her step. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. What confuses this is that after Kriss phone dies then on the 5th during the afternoon SOS attempt a wrong pin is input on Lisannes phone and indeed continues to be input until the end. He has a weapon like o jr t in his hands. No replies are deleted except in rare cases of spam, inappropriate language/links, or disrespect to another contributor. I dont really speculate much with psychic readings or energy. Nothing. Jane, Recently I have been reading that it is not unusual for people that hike or run in dangerous places and go missing that a shoe with a foot is found. In Latin America, it is as common as drinking coffee. I think whoever was behind the (likely) murders wanted it to seem like they went missing due to being lost on the pianista trail. And the weird flesh colored thing hanging in the tree to her left could be a skinned animal. Hi Anna, youre casting a wide net when you say If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist.. Is this in dispute? She also is DEFINITELY looking to the right of the person with the camera (presumably Lisanne). Its part of life in the countryside and small towns. And it seems to be leading to a dead-end. You have to look hard. Did they each have a camera or only Lisanne? Have you managed to obtain a copy? The backpack and all the contents are so confusing. From my understanding, the various teams communicate with each other about which parts of the case they are investigating, and collaborate occasionally to share information. It would be scarey.they could got attack by animal. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. My first thought and instincts on the object you believe to be circular on the left is a cow skull and the fact its there is very strange indeed. Photo 509 was removed first. From 508 onward. Eventually theyll have to confront these issues or nobody will visit and expats/immigrants/investors will leave. At that time, she had her phone. For this websites credibility I would strongly recommend more thorough moderation of peoples comments. Perhaps the photos served astrail markersto help the young women find their way around or back to therescuers. Were their phones not able to text? Someone was with the girls when the two photos of them were taken on the Pianista summit. Hope this was not a member of one of those mad religious sects that, over the years, have been torturing and killing people in Panama. Kris was not happy with the situation and was just going along and not looking too cheerful in the pictures. I too believe this is most likely what happened. Its sad because Panama is a beautiful country with a lot of wonderful people. I never noticed this before Possibly ambushed and didnt have time? Im sure removal of the comment was justified, but in considering all possibilities Im curious if there was there any insight offered? They want to protect their tourism industry but they also dont have the resources to effectively stop gang violence. He has some resources at his disposal. https://photos.app.goo.gl/sLXepriuWAxz8t1R9. Both of these 2 boys died shortly after, by murder or by accident. I think that if the parents had withheld important photographs,showing that the circumstances pointed to natural causes,they would have disclosed that theory before now, surely,if for no other reason,than to prevent further speculation about the girls disappearance. This is the real one: Then uses the flash to take many photos of the area, so she can return for Kris after finding help. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. Yes, exactly. So this photo may possibly offer more insight into the story. What I find most concerning is her face. If you look closely at the top left part of this photo, you can see that, behind all the criss-crossed twigs and branches, there is a bank of rock. Or is it all part of a cover-up? She is clearly shielding her eyes from the sun by holding her right arm up. 4. And if other people learn too much, they get killed too. I am assuming that the rock painting you refer to is the round orange patch on the right. There are some walls of rock in an area which I think is called los Naranjos, not too far from the Pianista trail (relatively speaking) and is where people go climbing. It doesnt matter. If it is a photo-op, why is Kris not waving her hands or something. Alex Humphrey disappeared . I am Photoshop expert, and I promise you that its virtually impossible to edit images in any way without it being noticeable at the pixel level. Heres more info: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/research-team-update-join-us/. Thanks and cheers. Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. The girls phone records later showed that they started making their initial distress calls on their cell phones approximately 2 hours and 45 minutes after their last known daytime photo (Photo 508). They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. Trust me, I prefer to take the easiest explanation too. People began to suspect something happened whenthe dog Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. The removed comment provided nothing helpful in any respect, and was merely to get attention and reactions. As the search was starting to wind up, a local woman handed in a blue backpack, claiming she found it in a rice paddy along the banks of the river. His family told Fox News that he had been traveling by himself and he was in good health. Most of the bones were never found. I think someone followed the girls, caught them, killed them and brought them somewhere, hid them, so they were never found. I no longer believe there was any mirror; What we see is instead is the lid of a soft food container (you can see the food stuck around the edges). The Canon Powershot SX270 HS, has two methods of numbering images. What do you think? If so, they may have wandered across the field looking for the original path back and got themselves well and truly lost. Trials are too costly. This is an interesting analysis, of this photos and the case in general. Ive met a few people that have maintained their pet in the same way as we do in the USA. Is the time that photo was taken known? If you have any supplementary information regarding the case, or if you were involved in this case and feel that the information available in this article impacts your privacy, please contact our team. Sue Borries and Debra Ann Velleman are pictured in undated composite image. The sign actually looks like a door with light shining thru.thats crazy. Their families went to the police to. The women wanted to see as much of Boquete as possible,hiring a guide to showthem around on April 2, 2014. In the picture of her in the Cave? perhaps there is much that was missed by a very bungled police investigation. On one website, almost every user is convinced, that all the daylight pictures were photoshopped, even this one here, No.505. Its a complex topic. Thorough job, very insightful and so well done Please visit Panama and further investigate. In Central America, dogs arent usually seen as something to protect and cuddle. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. The remains of both women were found soon after that. Keep the ideas flowing guys. Hi, do you know when and where this book will be available? Where they went and who they talked to in order to build up an idea about what motivated them to take that fateful walk and what information could have taken them down the other side of the divide. Its possible theres a painted insignia on the post to right of Kris. A priest of sorts. The arbitrary pictures looked focused as if steady hands took the shots, suggesting they were intentional. Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004. It could be that the taxi driver couldve called someone and given them a heads up that two beautiful young ladies had just headed up the Pianista alone. It isnt a cave, somebody has shown in a youtube video that it us just a very deep path on the wrong side of the mountain with a sharp turn. But what if that is what led them off track ? The Taxi driver was found dead later so no idea how much of this could be confirmed. As we all know, hitting delete never actually deletes files therefore overwriting the files is the only effective method to cleaning old data. Others suggested neitherFroonnor Kremerstook those photos; they believesomeone abducted the women. Ive even been contacted by people in Asia. Look for an ex-military man who may be the culprit. There is much speculation about the night time fotos made using the Cannon. Government corruption is the core of the problem. After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. In Latin America, gangs, cartels and human traffickers work very effectively in unison to carry out organized crime. Only three days later the three assailants were given their sentences: Hctor Abrego - 15 years in prison and must pay his sentence in jail in Santiago. It looks like a turtle shell hanging on the right side of the picture (its further up). It would be like a marker for anyone to see. 2. Hi Carin, thanks for your comment. First calls at 16:39 then nothing again for 14 hours? Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. You can find more information about on this article: https://imperfectplan.com/2021/02/24/kremers-froon-new-case-data-timestamps-of-missing-daytime-photos/. Whatever happened I believe was not from a man following them. She turns to talk Lisanna Shortly after this photo is when the girls encountered trouble and tried to dial for help. People have long realized that its up to the public to solve this. It even appears they have some kind tattoo on their back. Tourism in Panama represents one of Panama's main activities. Kris is hunched over beside a sacrificial alter with hands tied behind her. I wonder if the two red objects are flowers? Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. Thats from her palm. Not lurking or following the girls or walking beside them; nothing. Theymade numerous emergency calls afew hours into their hike; logs show they managed to connect only oncedue to poor reception in the forest. He has a reasonable explanation for why she is having to bend down, and he found video where you can see a turn to the left where kris is. The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls deaths were an accident. In all of the photos, there is zero evidence to suggest that the dog was truly with the girls on their hike into the forest. There IS anecdotal info that Lisannes BF made contact with her at 1400 or so on the 1st April but maybe that was Dutch time not Panama time? WHY? This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. The science can speak for itself. The date read April 1, the day of their fateful hike. For me the strongest clue that not anything sinister happened is that the family refused to have ALL photos released because some show the girls in a very rough state. Sorry to bring up the dog again. The simplest explanations are most likely to be the correct explanations. Thank you for reading. While some believe Kris and Lisanne died in an accident, the ex-cop slammed the police investigation in Panama as shoddy and said it should be redone. After days reviewing the evidence, Im now going to share a synopsis of what I believe happened there in the deep, dark cloud forest of Panama. That said, tourists wear shorts and sandals because they are not used to the heat or aware of such social norms. ALSO, I really want to know where and when Kris quit wearing her backpack! They obviously protect the predator(s). I would like to know their movements precisely from arriving in Boquete. Not everything is a complex conspiracy, people. I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. Also, the other ones arent covered by man-made support structures. And two months later, a pelvic bone and a foot - still inside a boot - were found in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. After this, the photos were from April 8, 2014and likely snappedbetween 1 amand 4 am. If you would know (and read) every bits & pieces of this story, you would actually see that the they got lost theory does not hold up with any of the facts and evidence found, not at all, not one bit. Also, it wouldnt make sense if Lisanne didnt know Kris password. I wish there were more answers to what happened. Hi Joseph, Thanks for your comment. He goes down some intriguing avenues which while I may not agree with either the direction or point have value because they stimulate me to think. Yes, I can see that too Chyna Lee. Tourism generates profits of approximately US$1,400 million annually. In all, the State Department says that in 2013 and 2014, a . They decided to enter the jungle, but they failed to mark their entry point into the jungle with a stack of rocks or some such marking. Nonsense. Cheers. If so then those could tell some information. Their story captivated me for some reason. A desperate search for the students was launched, with rescue workers combing through the jungle and nearby villages. With regards to the photos, they are probably real. After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls' deaths were an accident. There is nothing ominous or cause for concern in this particular pic. In this case, I dont believe it was incompetence alone. This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your interest in the case. So why did they go on a trip on April 1st? Its incredibly sad. Incredible work and interest- level regarding the fate of these human spirits. To the creator of this photo analysis Thank You, excellent work. Ive travelled through Central and South America quite a bit and these experiences cant be found elsewhere. It looks like there may be some red on her face too or other markings. This whole incident is the stuff of horror movies and very chilling, even if it was an accident. Why would they remove them? This option is least likely, because wed obviously see something more tangible in the photos. Nothing more sinister than that. But in numerous case there are adverse priorities that lead to incompetence in disappearance investigations. The FBI and others have continuously tried to stonewall him from publicly making these cases and their bizarre circumstances publicly known. Its almost as if Kris is in the midst of turning back around at the moment this photo is taken, due to the foliage becoming too dense to proceed any further. Also, I do not know about the girls living situation and the relationship between the girls and the owner. Cats are often seen as pests and scavengers which is unfortunately why many people use poison to kill local cats. But, then again this whole case is pretty unbelievable whether you believe they did or didnt meet foul play. Hi, there sounds plausible but there is something about this case when I start to find some closure that it was an accident OR indeed foul play, I get new evidence from the internet debunking the conclusion I arrived at. I think someone took them there. Guns are mostly for use in robberies, but these gangs prefer not to leave bullet holes its too obvious.
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