Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. Downside at CGTrader is as i've just been informed from Support is NO you can't sell the licence here and transfer it into another users name. I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. [quote]1. Ts went head on and contacted me (I was probably among list of targeted folks at that time, Ts previously also contacted me to make some shady deals which I rejected), now they requested me to lower my prices according to new price grantee model. According to TS "Marmoset Toolbag's watermark" is an overlay and a no no. Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. In this case you could say (in a nutshell) CGt is (at its core) acting as a hub providing file hosting and transaction services, and it can basically do so whit everything digital. Also could you elaborate on the search and going backwards issue? I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. @dafunk @S/C. Its great way to compete and fair . - Once in a while, alert all designers that a cleaning operation will be made, and wipe out objects that are of a too bad quality or copyright infringements. Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. Remember The3DStudio? If you are doing really bad with sales they let you do whatever you want but if you are doing well they step in and make things difficult. On the contrary, comparing 2013 to 2014 for the exact same period (January to August) our sales INCREASED in a 45%. Hopefully we can find a way that would plrase all sides. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Sales site defending exclusivity trying to find ways to seduce (like the famous CheckMate) but this has no return. I have been studying their website from a buyers perspective thoroughly and I have noticed that; 1. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. In CGtrader you can accumulate many until you set up payment agreement. I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader [/quote] Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. Hmm, i went to your profile and i see no negative feedback. - CGTrader pays immediately; TS waits until the end of the month. Term of Use on www.turbosquid.com. Think about the kind of treatment you can expect from these soulless corporate hacks once they can play their monopoly game again. Here it is quite seamless and elegant. Comment goo's like this, quote "Awesome model, converted this guy over into maya and he looks great" end quote. Does anyone sale something on Cgtrader?where are customers. Ps. --GENERAL--. 5. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. That takes longer time. CGtrader is founded upon the best ideas and the people hoe believe in it and keep supporting it no matter what and hard work and determination always win. NoneCG will be up for it. Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. Hi guys, thanks so much for your very valuable comments, they are much appreciated and we are very happy to work with you in order to make CGTrader the best place for 3D designers! A client would normally ALWAYS choose a cheaper price, that's a law of nature. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. Some may post their old stuff they just don't want to ask money for, consequentially it is also not representative of the work they currently do. This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. Yes CGtrader is great! Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. CGTrader will have to do so at some point, or people in search of quality models will simply avoid it. I don't think trying to sit down with one ass on more then one chair at the same time is a good business. Regarding response time, i respond to my buyers within 10 minutes unless im in bed and someone from other part of the world is trying to reach me. With the support of a strong community we can get this thing going, don't worry about that. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. It's sad cgtrader promote only printing models and forget about regular models. So, Ts will probably have a few thousand lawsuits to issue in following months if they like. My opinions have evoluted over the months. [google7|http://www.google.com] I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. This place is indeed different and allot closer to what we actually need, I can't imagine the core principal on witch this place is founded would change as it will prove to be the one and only way to be future proof in this supper connected world. 60% cut could be ok if that cost could be added to the product but price guarantee makes that impossible. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. Animated Camel 3D Model 13. What I eventually hope to have is a healthy fair open market place, where collaboration , communication, people empowerment and evolution prevails over control systems, central power structures, monopolistic thinking, and maintaining of a status qou. Think about your future: you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. And for good sales you don't need to be there neither because its just your own clients you swing to them. - Are you interested in just some quick cash grabs and extras here and there while you can, or would you like to be able to contribute to a fair market where you can make a living out of your passion? Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). Care to share your time machine? TS staff do their best and is not responsible for the strategic choice of TS CGtrader staff admits to some degree to this problem (see the comment of Dalia Lasaite) and promises to redesign the homepage. Turbosquid bites the hands that feed them: Brittney Briere, Sep 18, 09:53 SST: No overt similarites in armor designs, guns, vehicles, naming- nothing. ", then there is little one can do but wait out the rebalancing. Everything we do is going on between people, we are all in this together, none of us is separate now matter how hard we would like to think so. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. Female 3D models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. How about the Royalty Rate??? The site owners could also act on other various levels : At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". When pressed, Turbosquid could give no clearer specification than "it is too similar". They lie about your rights on Turbosquid. I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. I removed all products from TS. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. Another thing that makes CGT better than TS is the friendships that one is able to make within the artist community. Dear adentonclark, This is my principle decision . Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. The sellers for which, CGtrader liked can help for this resource. adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! Yep.. A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. Besides how about your right to fair trade? bye for now and be well Will and Mr Data :) :]. Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. and resurrect it without that 3dprinting nonsense. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. (e.g. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. It's the artist that need to make a stand and simply take the short term loss from less traffic and exposure and join the marketplace that respects the artists. The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. It would be mess. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? when cgtrader change his frontpage i stop selling products bad :(. The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. We are currently working to redesign the homepage to show off both CG and 3D print ready models. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. https://www.fiverr.com/pixel512/create-a-3d-model-shipping-container Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. Hi from Will and Mr Data :) :] Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. Hi John, you made very valid points. Any more than 500,000 polygons in one scene and that will make opening and closing it a really long process not to mention that if you trying to animate something in the scene you may have to keep hiding things in various layers or create the animation in a separate one. I'm suggesting a collective of store owners. After 60 days, we will put your content back online. They said fraud protection is only reserved for exclusive sellers. So i need to try to make money with my models as long as possible, means as long it is not uploaded to anywhere else. You need to find what you want based on category and budget and purchase it quickly so you can use the product or send it to who will. But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. @Supercigale, this is worrying to read, i think such things shouldn't happen. When a buyer leaves a bad rating for a lame reason , TS investigate and contact the buyer and if he doesn't give a serious explanation, I think CGT should begin doing the same and promoting people for being exclusive to CGT after all that will help buyer confidence when they realize how many of their best artists are switching sides! IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. So my own experience on sales is of little value. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. Yes indeed! I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? CGTrader has the better platform from my point of view, better rates if i remember correct. On other hand I could also think its just some clients that do not care about the price difference, they just prefer using the Ts account. Not artist friendly at all, from uploading to statistics (Model views, downloads, and so on). Renderer: Cyclse. Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. The entire way of setting up your model seems backwards and chaotic. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. You are just providing a platform." They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! I think we as sellers can do a lot to make cgtrader more interesting for buyers. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Our "power struggles" with Turbosquid stopped the moment Matt Wisdom banned our account and we stoped doing business, however that doesn't alter our will to expose this kind of business practices. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. Yes. (just playing with ideas here) So it is, but it's a matter of time and CGTrader will be able to master these positions. It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. I stumbled across the same issues! Batman (Rig) for Maya 10. . CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. @IterateCGI These are great ideas and in fact we are currently working on one campaign that will involve the community to help market CGTrader better. Site itself must have significant changes to make it more attractive and more convenient to buyers, especially big buyers. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. Is the same for me as everyone else. A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry. - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects AFAIK buyers right to be refunded is protected by law. i think cgtrader can grow stronger with higher quality traffic. NoneCg I've read almost all your information regarding the public issues. The motivation to backlink and make marketing efforts for the own store (and the collective trademark ad the same time) would probable also increase. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. Blendswap.com5. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. Free3d.com7. These changes are part of the new TurboSquid Best Price Guarantee (https://resources.squid.io/?p=14893) in which we are assuring TurboSquid customers that they can always find the lowest prices on our site. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] I think the TS percentage is pretty much an outrage considering the low price of the products being sold. ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. with the recent requirements to upload a 3D product on TS, CGT became my number one no doubt, i'm not gonna wast half my life rendering turntables that wouldn't make much of a difference when every seller is doing the same thing. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. About TS: If you look at the traffic statistics, TS ranks around 9k top sites, and CGT at around 42k, so obviously, people buy more at TS not because they want to spoil the sellers, but rather because they don't come to CGTrader enough and their first place to search is TS. Delhi Escort Sometime buyer in frustration just leave bad review on the model for issues that can be solved easily, but since he cant contact seller he thinks he cant do anything about it and he wasted his money. However, the use is allowed if the MMO is a closed MMO, like World of Warcraft. Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. and it's not a check-out, it's simply a gift. I left all but . If you look around on the net on all the various forums everyone always mentions Turbosquid be it positively or negatively.